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PostPosted: 06 Jun 2012, 15:53 
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Although these are actually of a Nyasaland Rlys 45 ton crane on 3'6" gauge I would expect many of the detail drawings to be typical.

To print them involves the cost of an A2 print - say £6.

To scan them would be to have to 'cut' them in to two parts.

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COWANS SHELDON 45 TON BREAKDOWN CRANE FOR NYASALAND RAILWAYS

Drawing List from Consulting Engineers – Livesey & Henderson

All drawings prefixed L.&H. DRG NO

Size of Paper Prints 19½” X 14” ( Approx Reduction from Original 47% )

DRWG. No. SCALE TITLE MAKERS DRAWING NO. 19226 -
( ORIGINAL ) ( UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED )

1081-L/1 ½” = 1’ GENERAL ARRANGEMENT
1081-L/2-4 not in set
1081-L/5. LUBRICATION CHART -66
1081-L/6 not in set
1081-L/7 3” = 1’ – 0” SUPERSTRUCTURE SHAFTS -9
1081-L/8 3” = 1’ – 0” SUPERSTRUCTURE GEARING -13
1081-L/9 3” = 1’ – 0” SUPERSTRUCTURE CASTINGS -8
1081-L/10 3” = 1’ – 0” DERRICK GEAR DETAILS -12
1081-L/11 3” = 1’ – 0” HOIST & DERRICK BARRELS -6
1081-L/12 12” = 1’ – 0” FRICTION CONES 112
1081-L/13 12” = 1’ – 0” 8”X14” ENGINE CYLINDER ELEVATION E.W.1
1081-L/14 12” = 1’ – 0” 8”X14” ENGINE SECTION OF CYLINDER E.W.2
1081-L/15 12” = 1’ – 0” 8”X14” ENGINE SLIDE BARS AND LINK MOTION E.W.3
1081-L/16 12” = 1’ – 0” 8”X14” ENGINE CONNECTING ROD E.W.4
1081-L/17 12” = 1’ – 0” 8”X14” ENGINE PISTON ROD & LINK MOTION E.W.5
1081-L/18 12” = 1’ – 0” 8”X14” ENGINE, DETAILS OF CROSSHEADS. E.W.6
1081-L/19 12” = 1’ – 0” 8”X14” ENGINE ECCENTRIC RODS & STRAPS E.W.7
1081-L/20 12” = 1’ – 0” 8”X14” ENGINE CRANK DISCS E.W.8
1081-L/21 not in set
1081-L/22 1 ½”, 3”, 6” = 1’ – 0” DETAILS OF BRAKES AND LEVERS 18125-55
1081-L/23 1 ½”, 3”, 6” = 1’ – 0” STEAM TRAVEL, BRAKE GEAR, DRAIN COCK,
CONTROL LEVER GUIDE AND LUBRICATOR DETAILS 18125-47
1081-L/24 1 ½”, 3”, 6” = 1’ – 0” SLEW CONE CLUTCH, REVERSING GEAR HOIST
PINION GEAR AND REGULATING VALVE GEAR -32
1081-L/25 1 ½”, 3”, 6” = 1’ – 0” MAIN AND AUXILIARY HOIST, DERRICK AND
TRAVEL CLUTCH DETAILS 18125-54
1081-L/26 12” = 1’ – 0” TRAVEL, BRAKE STEAM VALVE 17818-34
1081-L/27 1 ½” & 3” = 1’ – 0” RADIUS INDICATOR -33
1081-L/28 ¾”,1 ½” & 3” = 1’ – 0” INCLINOMETER & CARRIAGE LADDERS -21
1081-L/29 1 ½” = 1’ – 0” CHEEKS -2
1081-L/30 3” = 1’ – 0” CHEEK TOP STRETCHER -20
1081-L/31 1 ½” = 1’ – 0” CHEEK BOTTOM STRETCHER -5
1081-L/32 1 ½” = 1’ – 0” ARRGT. OF SUPERSTRUCTURE PIPES -49
1081-L/33 1 ½” & 3” = 1’ – 0” DETAIL OF SUPERSTRUCTURE PIPES -50
1081-L/34 1 ½”, 3”, 6” = 1’ – 0” TAILPLATE AND LOCKING GEAR -51
1081-L/35 1 ½” = 1’ – 0” ARRANGEMENT OF BOILER -54
1081-L/36 1 ½” & 1” = 1’ – 0” SHELL OF BOILER -55
1081-L/37 1 ½” & 6” = 1’ – 0” PLATFORMS, TANKS & COAL BOXES -28
1081-L/38-40 not in set
1081-L/41 ¾” & 1½” = 1’ – 0” JIB STRUCTURE -12
1081-L/42 not in set
1081-L/43 3/8” & ¾” = 1’ – 0” ROPE DIAGRAM & JIB ROPE GUARDS -14
1081-L/44-45 not in set
1081-L/46 1” = 1’ – 0” ARRANGEMENT OF CARRIAGE -22
1081-L/47 1” = 1’ – 0” CARRIAGE FRAME -25
1081-L/48-51 not in set
1081-L/52 1 ½”, 3”, 6” = 1’ – 0” ARRANGEMENT & DETAIL OF TRAVEL GEAR -23
1081-L/53 1 ½”, 3”, 6” = 1’ – 0” ARRGT. & DETAIL OF DRAW BEAMS -24
1081-L/54 1 ”= 1’ – 0” ARRANGEMENT OF CARRIAGE BRAKES -26
1081-L/55-63 not in set
1081-L/64 1 ½” = 1’ – 0” ARRGT. OF RELIEVING BOGIE -15
1081-L/65-90 not in set

1081-L/I-90 INDEX

For details of drawings not in set – see index sheet.


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PostPosted: 27 Sep 2012, 07:25 
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Hi

This is Cem.
I am living in Turquie.
I would like to have these projects very much.
Do you have also any drawings for 200 ton capacity?

Kind regards
Cem OZKAN
Ankara, Turquie


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PostPosted: 27 Sep 2012, 10:20 
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I have today just registered with the forum in the hope that someone can help with a General Arrangment drawing for a Cowan Sheldon 75t breakdown crane. I am a retired project engineer who now spends his time making model railway locos & equipment in 10mm scale.

My latest completed project is a Class 47 diesel electric loco, powered by a model aircraft engine, driving a generator to provide power to 6 motors as per full size. This can be seen on proving trials, albeit unpainted, in the video section of our model club website http://www.birminghamsme.com

The particular model of crane that I am interested in is the one of diesel hydraulic models in the range ADRC 96710-15 manufactured in 1977, which I believe are currently owned by Network Rail and it would be my intention to make it a fully working model by radio control. This would give the Class 47 something to pull, with perhaps the ultimate aim to complete a typical breakdown train.

The association Secretary David Withers has recommended that I make this request in the hope that someone out there can help. He tells me that the nearest actual crane to me is at Bescot West Midlands and I wonder whether it is possible to gain access, for taking photographs and measurements etc.

Any help would be much appreciated

Best regards - Ken Toone


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PostPosted: 30 Sep 2012, 12:29 
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Ken, Bescot is a DB Schenker depot, whose staff crew the Breakdown Train. Whilst Network Rail actually own the hardware, your first port of call to arrange an official visit is here -
http://www.rail.dbschenker.co.uk/press/contact.htm

They will then put you in contact with the local staff where appropriate.


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PostPosted: 30 Sep 2012, 12:42 
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Clark Chapman retained drawings of post 1960s cranes and there is little or nothing in Cumbria Records ( CASCAT ).
A request to CC Gateshead might produce a useful respose?
I have contacted a couple of recent BR retirees who may have something more than the BR diagram.


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PostPosted: 30 Sep 2012, 12:49 
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Cem,

Which; and I assume you mean a Cowans Sheldon 200 tonner; do you refer to?

Chris


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PostPosted: 30 Sep 2012, 18:41 
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Many thanks Chris & Rob for the information. I have e-mailed both DB Schenker & Clark Chapman and await their response.
Have also had a reply from Cumbria Records, as you say, they have nothing re the type I am considering, but do have a GA drawing of the 1963 Diesel version (their record card No 20918)

Regards Ken.


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PostPosted: 01 Oct 2012, 12:11 
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I have scanned the CARKND pages from a BRB diagram book.
Send me an email at chriscapewell@googlemail.com and I will forward two pages.

Chris


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PostPosted: 12 Oct 2012, 09:19 
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Hi Chris,

Sorry, I was kind of hopeless, I was not checking for answer, since it has been some time after your first post.

Yes I was Referring Cowans Sheldon 200 tonner.
But, any Cowans breakdown crane with "closer date" would be enough for me.
The dwgs. listed above would be also OK. if I do not have any other chance.

I will be very happy if you could help me.
Thanks again,

M. Cem OZKAN.
Ankara, Turquie


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PostPosted: 23 Jun 2013, 10:46 
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Its been a bit quiet for the last few months, as my requests to both DB Schenker and Clarke Chapman fell on deaf ears.
You will recall that I am interested in constructing a Gauge 1 (10mm Scale) working model of a 1977 75t crane in the series ADRC96710-15, Order Nos 31145-50
My interest in the project has recently been reawakened by the publishing of Vol 2 of Peter Tatlow's book, in which there is a wealth of information and a good general arrangement drawing of my chosen subject. I think perhaps I now have sufficient information to make a start, but there are still many details missing which really can only be answered by viewing the actual crane.
I understand that there are still 4 left in various parts of the country, so is there any way in which I can get to see one of these cranes? to take photographs etc.
I am located in the West Midlands, so obviously Bescot would be good place to start, although I have recently been told that this one is due to move soon.
Grateful thanks must go to the members who have responded to my previous requests and I look forward completing my research.

Many thanks.


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